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Questioned by the rapporteur of the Parliamentary Joint Inquiry Committee (CPMI) on January 8th, Senator Eliziane Gama (PSD-MA), hacker Walter Delgatti Neto claimed that former President Jair Bolsonaro promised him a pardon to invade electronic voting machines and assume a supposed wiretap of Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes.
Delgatti said he met with Deputy Carla Zambelli (PL-SP) at a gas station, where she inserted a chip into an “apparently new” cellphone and called the then President of Brazil. “According to him [Bolsonaro], the wiretap had already been carried out, with compromising conversations of the justice, and they wanted me to take responsibility for this wiretap, noting that at the time I was the hacker of Operation Car Wash,” Delgatti detailed to the legislators.
The hacker also stated that Bolsonaro told him that the wiretap had been carried out by agents from another country and told him: “Don’t worry, if you happen to be arrested, I’ll have the judge arrested, and he laughed.”
Delgatti said he agreed to take responsibility for the wiretap because it was a request from the President of Brazil.
“After that, the deputy [Carla Zambelli] told me that I needed to hack into some judicial system, or the Superior Electoral Court (TSE) itself, to show the vulnerability of the system,” the witness reported. He then hacked into the National Council of Justice (CNJ) systems and all the courts in the country.
He told the members of the CPMI that he stayed on the CNJ’s intranet, and that of all the courts and even the TSE for four months.
New meetings
Delgatti also informed that on August 9th, he attended two meetings. One with the party’s president, Waldemar Costa Neto, his attorneys, Carla Zambelli’s brother, and her husband, where they discussed “technical” matters. And another meeting, with marketing strategist Duda Lima, where the idea of him giving an interview talking about the vulnerability of electronic voting machines was discussed, but it wasn’t carried out.
On another occasion, Delgatti claimed that he met with Bolsonaro, Zambelli, the president’s aide Mauro Cid, and General Marcelo Câmara to discuss the vulnerability of electronic voting machines. According to the hacker, Bolsonaro assured him that he would receive a pardon if he was arrested for actions related to the electronic voting machine.
Delgatti told the parliamentarians that he went to the Ministry of Defense five times in total. The initial idea was for him to personally inspect the source code, but only ministry servers had access, so they went to the TSE and passed information to the hacker.
The testimony continues in plenary 2 of the Nilo Coelho wing at the Federal Senate.
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Report – Lara Haje
Editing – Natalia Doederlein
